Friday, June 29, 2007

The Problem of Suffering : Disproving the Christian god, part 2

Proof that Yahweh doesn't Exist.

one way in which to prove something doesn't exist is to prove that it's attributes are self contradictory, or, contradictory to the rest of the world.
for example a "square circle" cannot exist because in order to be square it cannot be circular and vice versa.
this is the same type of proof that i offer for yahweh's non-existence. yahweh has three attributes we'll call the omni's. omnipotence, omniscience, and omnibenevolence. which we will from henceforth call him (for the sake of saving keystrokes) an "omnimax" deity. now, yahweh is credited with creating the universe and everything in it. which makes him a creator deity. so we have the, "omnimax creator deity" which is as impossible as a square circle. for the simple reason that suffering exists. can we agree that suffering exists? can we agree that suffering is a bad thing? for example can we agree that it is a bad thing for a five year old girl to have to die a prolonged death due to cancer? can we agree that pedophilia is a bad thing?
ok. we will now look at epicurus' problem of evil. which i will re-word as the "problem of suffering" for the purpose of this argument.

1.) if yahweh is willing to prevent suffering, but not able to then he is not omnipotent.
2.) if yahweh is able to prevent suffering but not willing to then he is not omnibenevolent
3.) if yahweh were both able (omnipotent) and willing (omnibenevolent) to prevent suffering then there would be no suffering.

since we know there is suffering, we can conclude, there is no yahweh.

most common theodicies (answers to the problem of evil) are reliant on the free will of man which i have already shown to be insufficient given yahweh's omnimax creator status (see, Free Will: Disproving the Christian god, part 1). basically what i'm saying is that if yahweh is an omnimax creator deity, then he knew that his creation and his granting of "free will" would result in suffering. which refers us back to the problem of suffering.

in summation,
yes, i can prove that the one true God, the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, the God that created this world, the God that created you and me does not exist.

7 comments:

breathingthebreath said...

There is suffering for those who do not keep Gods word if there were not suffering there would be no free will.Suffering is looked as bad but at larger perspective can cause someone to come to God which is Good because they no longer have to submit to there "genes and influences"or suffering(sin).in conclusion Suffering being bad is an opinion.A girl finding Jesus and Jesus living within Her is really Good because she would not have came if it were not for that suffering.Were there was death Grace abounded much more.

John 14:23-24,Romans 5:12-21

theHauss said...

i already addressed everything you said in the blog. but lets pretend i didn't. are you saying that suffering is not a bad thing? are you telling me that, when a three year old girl is raped by an adult male, it's not a bad thing?

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